When do boats become ships

Please i am a National Diploma student of Maritime Academy of Nigeria Oron studying nautical science, i want to know more about the course. What I will say is not about the currently accepted distinction between ship and boats, but rather historical.

When ships powered by sails began to start losing trade to vessels powered by engines boats they as an industry attempted to associate these vessels with unplesant attributes like noise, soot, vibration, and in some cases slower speed. The sailoing industry both cargo and passanger would say that you could SAIL on a quiet, clean, calm, fast ship or go one of those dirty loud vibrating slow BOATS with an engine.

The concept a ship being superior and a boat being inferior was sucessfully instituted. That kind of contradicts what you have stated above. The young officer replied. I have read your forum discussion regarding use, but I am still unclear as to where the line is drawn for this category. Perhaps we will soon see this as a real conversation in the industry. This holds true for submarines boats. If it leans into the turn, it is a boat.

If it leans out on a turn, it is a ship. In response to comments about the Edmund Fitzgerald, when you spend your life on one you can call it whatever you want.

I am sure they all knew it was a ship, I served 20 years in the Navy and always said I was heading back to the boat even though I knew it was a ship. While in Boot camp in , US Coast Guard, we were told that a ship is 95 feet or longer and a boat is 94 feet and under. That makes it pretty simple. With over 30 years in the marine industry including working at sea, ship building and ship repair, I would offer my comments.

Yes all above is true. The best a boat has is dinghies or liferafts etc. Consequently a submarine does NOT carry life boats. There are many broader requirements Size and the ability to navigate very heavy seas, such as those whipped up by a tropical Revolving storm TRS. It must be designed to travel in the open sea in all weather conditions and have lifeboats that can do the same. They carry cargo or passengers and have a substantial crew to operate it including engineers.

As far as the Edmund Fitzgerald is concerned, these vessels are an enigma. They were large and qualify in most areas, but — was it capable of going to sea and did it have sea-going lifeboats? Ironically it suffered probably as bad a storm as it would have done at sea. The problem is that in fresh water the waters are more treacherous than salt water as they rise up far more quickly. Yes it was a large vessel but was it a Ship —? Being the son of a WW II submariner. My dad cruised the Atlantic of the east coast of US and in many conversations about the war he always called his boat a boat never a ship.

Thats it!! The simplest and most accurate definition I stay with is that a ship can carry a boat but a boat cannot carry a ship. Thank you for the information. My husband won this discussion. I am terrified of the ocean or even a small lake. You have my utmost respect for your sacrifice. I love seafood but would never know the pleasure of eating it without you brave souls. Thank you. There is the Boat of Millions of years,which is a very advanced spacecraft able to.

The argument regarding leaning into or out of a turn is an interesting idea, however this may have more to do with hull and propulsion characteristics than vessel construction. In reality, as with most nautical expressions, whatever feels best to use is probably best and relying on the opinion of a sailor, with regards to an explanation of nautical expressions, puts you at the mercy of a sharp sense of humour.

There are two points on every vessel. Center of buoyancy and center of gravity. Anyone can answer me why we only know the bareboat charter for any size of the ship?

It never mentions bareship charter? Except a kayak or canoe is like a ship — cg is above cb. If you get a ruddered kayak up to speed and hit the rudder hard it will heel outward like a ship.

This is exactly the problem with trying to make one pithy statement to define a ship or boat. It is far more complex than that.

In the 5th century the Vikings began to make the epic sea journeys that, even today, remain mind-boggling feats of daring. Even though their vessels were known as 'long-ships', by modern standards they are definitely boats. Deckless or half-decked, with elevated bow and stern, these early boats took the Norsemen to all the coasts of Europe and across the Atlantic, and even partly across the land on river routes between the Baltic and the Black Sea.

The rugged whale-boat of the 17thth centuries was developed from the Viking type of construction and came to be used for numerous purposes, including lifeboats, and is still in use today. In the US Navy, the term boat refers to any vessel that is small enough to be hoisted aboard a ship.

And submarines A. All submarines, no matter what size they are, are designated as boats. William51 Who Called On ? Atheist We Will Remember Them Peter Pedant Sir Geoffrey Cox. Subscribe to America's largest dictionary and get thousands more definitions and advanced search—ad free! Log in Sign Up. Usage Notes What's the difference between a 'boat' and a 'ship'? And which one holds the gravy? More Words At Play. Merriam-Webster's Words of the Week - Oct. Homophones, Homographs, and Homonyms.

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